Roof color issue and details

Hello,

I posted on another forum, but I thought I might also get some help here, I installed Tamko Thunderstorm grey class 4, I had 2 crews installing, one crew one side did a good random pattern with the colors, the other crew did a diagonal pattern that looks like a ladder and other ugly looking details.

I’ll post a picture of the result of the pattern and I would like some comments if anyone knows what could have caused this or if this is common for this to happen, the contractor is saying a defective shingle, but half the house with the other crew was good…

also I noticed the last line of shingles below ridge goes from half a shingle to 1/2" and the valley also looks all crooked.
they also installed next to that valley an area in a racking pattern…

just trying to see if you can noticed the points noted above and if you have any recommendations on what to do next, service is not completed yet.

contractor also had Tamko rep to get a sample because he keeps saying its a shingle defect, but like I said its just weird half of the house was done properly and also its almost 100 squares, weird to have so many bundles with defective shingles
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Contact the Tamko Rep yourself. He will be able to answer your questions best.

If the shingles came from two lots it wouldn’t unusual for that many to be bad, what is unusual is that it isn’t the whole house.

Tamko is just opening a warranty claim, roofer wants to collect final payment and I’m a little screwed

Nothing is wrong.
Beautiful roof.
Yes, i see very light and dark colors and i can see the pattern on how they were laid.

When the roof gets older you will miss seeing those light and dark colors.
It wont be long.
It will be looking dull and boring in no time.

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Of course it’s wrong, you are supposed to get a roof with a random patern, not a roof with lines because the roofer doesn’t follow the manufacturer instructions on how to install the Shingle, if this is good to you, I’m just surprised

Laugh Out loud!!!

Its wrong , cant i see???

Nope!!!

Looks perfect!!!

You can scream its wrong All you want…

“He didnt lay them right”
Wrong”
He did lay them right.

“Then the shingles are defective”
No they are not.

First you come on here and ask seasoned professionals their opinion.
Then when you dont hear the opinion you want.
You pitch a fit…,

Sorry, i have OCD too
But ive overcome it.
Yes, you can see the pattern of how they installed the shingles.
There isnt anything anybody could have done
To make it look better for you.
Even if you installed them, you would have been unhappy with it.

The crew installed them in the exact manner and pattern that you are satisfied with on the rest of the roof.
Again, nothing wrong with the installer or the shingle.
Thunderstorm is a beautiful shingle.
One of my only favorites from Tamko.

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Laugh Out loud!!!
??? how old are you ?
Its wrong , cant i see???

Nope!!!

Looks perfect!!!
maybe because Its not your house

You can scream its wrong All you want…

“He didnt lay them right”
Wrong”
He did lay them right.

oh I didn’t know you were here supervising the crew, good to know, that’s why it got messed up

“Then the shingles are defective”
No they are not.

oh that’s way Tamko assumed the issue and paid me for all the rework

Yes I came here for a professional advice which apparently you know nothing about, so please next time keep your thoughts to your self and your rudeness, just so you know I am completely satisfied and happy with the rework done, so yes there was a problem before, anyways I’m not here to argue with you

I got here a little late. That looks like crap. I would have notified you, before you had to come to me. You can see the run of granule drop is not correct. Since the early 2000’s I’ve installed alot of the American Natural colors and have never seen Thunderstorm Grey, be off that bad. I had a customer, lay out the pattern for Painted desert, because she determined there was a pattern??? It was only 10sq so I didn’t bother giving my opinion. I’ve never sold an IR in Tamko. Possibly the granule drop had an issue with the copper or zinc granule. Glad they fixed it.

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Thanks, yes I noticed when you start installing this shingle the usual normal pyramid method, I was getting the lines, when I had the crew redoing, one crew was doing again the same snake pattern, I was lucky to be around and had them take down about 10 lines and do it the Tamko way, it came out the way it was supposed to be…

1st pic is the old


2dn pic is the reroof again getting the same line pattern
3rd pic was the result after taking it down and do it Tamko

Poor tamko and roofer.
Im sorry that happened to them.
I super hero of a man did excellent work,
A work most men cant do physically or mentally
And then a jackass comes along and trys to ruin him saying he didnt know how to do his job right.
I am sure you feel justified because you were successful in getting them to replace it.

You go Boy!
Your the man!

Actually, it was only business sense that they gave into you!!
It was polite blackmail plain and simple.
You are threatening to fight your 30k plus bill
Ruin your roofers reputation and his business and his livlyhood
Or him just replace a 3-4 sq section on his own dime with Tamko donating the shingles.

Yeah, its made you happy
But you still believe the roofer did something wrong.

Just so you know, however you want to sleep at night, however you want to justify it
You stole from that roofer…

Maybe now tamko will forever lose a very lucrative business with this roofer
Because now the roofer is scared hes going to have to go thru this again.

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Poor tamko and roofer.

Poor Tamko?? are you high?? first of all you are protecting a multimillion dollar company, roofer should protect the client, at the end of the day Tamko is not giving you any business lmao, if this is the customer service you offer, poor of your clients
Im sorry that happened to them.

yeah you should be sorry, next time they need to have someone supervising all this guys, no supervision= mistakes
I super hero of a man did excellent work,
A work most men cant do physically or mentally
And then a jackass comes along and trys to ruin him saying he didnt know how to do his job right.
I am sure you feel justified because you were successful in getting them to replace it.
I feel very good, I can go outside and look at this beautiful roof, at the end my House looks right, the way it supposed to look
You go Boy!
Your the man!

Actually, it was only business sense that they gave into you!!
of course, I think Tamko, me and others around this forum that own businesses act the Sameway, that’s why we have repeat business, we offer a great customer service and if anything happens we stand behind our product

It was polite blackmail plain and simple.
You are threatening to fight your 30k plus bill
**yes I’m paying a lot of Money to get something right, I’m sure your customers are happy when you do Crap **
Ruin your roofers reputation and his business and his livlyhood
Or him just replace a 3-4 sq section on his own dime with Tamko donating the shingles.
if he gets ruined by a few squares he is in the wrong business, and yes Tamko donated not 3-4 actually 30 and no, I learned my lesson and I had a competent roofer instead
Yeah, its made you happy
very happy with the results

But you still believe the roofer did something wrong.
yes he did, its called no supervision
Just so you know, however you want to sleep at night, however you want to justify it
You stole from that roofer…
roofer got paid every single penny, the only person who got screwed was me, Tamko doesn’t pay for ridge, hip, starters and all what its considered accessories, I had to pay out of pocket to buy all accessories and to pay the roofer extra to correct all the mistakes left by the other roofer
Maybe now tamko will forever lose a very lucrative business with this roofer
I’m sure they will be very sad
Because now the roofer is scared hes going to have to go thru this again.
**maybe this inexperienced roofer will learn a lesson like all business owners do, we do a mistake we correct it and sometimes it may cost us , but that’s how we learn, again poor of your customers if you are a roofer, I doubt it though with your attitude, you just have nothing better to do than be here arguing with everyone, go find something else to do **

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**yeah you should be sorry, next time they need to have someone supervising all this guys, no supervision= mistakes
Looks like you with all your wisdom, you have more knowledge than all the first crew and the second crew.
Probably 100 years of combined knowledge.
Wow
You know a lot.

and yes Tamko donated not 3-4 actually 30 and no, I learned my lesson and I had a competent roofer instead***

30 sq, wow, you robbed them big time!!

**roofer got paid every single penny,

No, you broke the agreement.
The roofer provided excellent workmanship.
You disagreed with the cosmetics of the product and he suffered greatly…
Something no one else would even notice.

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