The roofers are done with the first day of the new roof job on my home and plan to finish tomorrow. I find the company has been doing quite well overall, from answering questions to focusing on proper service. But I do have one question, regarding starter strip.
The foreman has chosen to use some type of (apparently) cheap 3-tab shingle (OC Supreme AR) for starter on an architectural roof. This was not discussed beforehand and he is treating it more or less as a matter of fact, business as usual in other words. He is laying them backwards.
Is this normal/acceptable? Doing a search I found at least one of you does not like this method. Am just a little concerned about compromising the job - hope you guys can set my mind at rest. Thanks!
using a backward three tab shingle is pretty standard practice here, when using archs we generally just use the same capping shingles for starters but some guys will buy a cheap shingle for starters and for the most part I don’t see a problem with it at all. Its probably what your house had on it when the tore it up
When I first started out nearly 30 years ago, that was all anyone I ever saw do, so I did as I was taught, until I learned why the tabs should be cut off and then when they came out with actual starter strip, thats what I order for every job.
i cant believe you got nothing better to do w/ your time other than being right up the shinglers ass! what do you think everyones out to screw you?! guys have been doing it that way for yrs.! id charge you more for being right up my ass! you should be more worried that they dont use them same shingles for ridgecaps, because thats how theyll screw you. you shouldnt of signed them if you dont trust them. i cant stand customers like you.
Boy you guys are always ready to tear another roofer up.The people on this post are a bunch of back stabbers.There is nothing wrong with turning a 3 tab upside down.If the home owner is complaining about something as small as that ,maybe he should have done it himself.
Ed and Cory I wasnt talking about every post.I didnt even see a starter strip untill the hail chasers brought Elk shingles into the area in 2001. Never had shingles blow off using 3 tabs for starters.Plus smart roofers save 3 tabs to use for starters on other jobs.
It’s the old “two sides to every story” all over again. Tradespeople vs those who hire them. Dunno why it has to be that way, or seen that way.
I started out saying these guys are doing a good job. In fact, of the numerous work crews I’ve had in my house this year as part of a full renovation, they are far and away the best.
What I have learned along the way is that I both need to and like to learn. So, when a flooring guy uses a certain kind of pad vs another, I try to understand the whys and wherefores of such a thing. When a carpenter uses two types of moulding to set one window, I’d like to know what’s up. When a painter uses cheapo paint on the most important work, the trim, even though the agreement called for upgraded paint and I found out later what he used, I note to myself that I should be more vigilant. In no way am I singling out roofers (or shingling them out ) or any other pros for “special” treatment.
So when I go to forums and ask questions, it is as much to educate myself as to protect my investment in my home. It has been my experience that most honest and straight-up tradespeople on these forums have absolutely no problem answering questions that are put in that vein, as this one was, and as several responded. Which doesn’t mean the sniper is not honest etc; maybe he’s having a bad day, whatever… it’s not my job to figure it out. I’m not too crazy about the trash talk and blanket accusations though - that’s kinda churlish IMO.
[quote=“dave63028”]Ed and Cory I wasnt talking about every post.I didnt even see a starter strip untill the hail chasers brought Elk shingles into the area in 2001. Never had shingles blow off using 3 tabs for starters.
Plus smart roofers save 3 tabs to use for starters on other jobs. [/quote]
Corry, I don’t think your a dummy, although maybe that response was a little harsh.
I save whatever is left from open bundles of shingles on every job. I have a stack of metrics and of english that I always use for starters. Sometimes manufacturers don’t match up, but I don’t think it matters.
Someone said as long as gum line is on back of shingles, it doesn’t matter to use an upside down 3-tab and I agree.